Singapore Democrats

I believe 'In all probability' is as good as 'definitely' unless a massive tsunami hits the Esplanade and onto the Supreme Court Complex on the day of hearing. Let's have faith in the declared promises of the SAR, a senior civil servant as well as the Senior Counsel from Drew & Napier a leading S'pore law firm that.....
1 The hearing will be held in open court
2 Father&Son Lee will attend court as plaintiffs
I will pray and hope that these will come to pass as I have faith in the legal system of my beloved country, a first-world developed nation. Cheers to justice and democracy here and everywhere!

:) Please prove me wrong. Let there be an open court hearing. Please. I want to be proven wrong.

i dont think i can go cos exams coming soon :dry:

I'll be taking off day from work to see my heros , :cheer: this is really interesting ... an open court

The well-paid police personnel in Singapore are enforcing laws that are unjust and repressive -- when it comes to the question of public assembly and peaceful non-violent public protest.

The PAP Government's denial of such citizens' rights is simply indefensible. I simply don't buy their arguments of internal security and public order for such police harassment and arrest of peaceful public assemblers and protestors. Police powers have been abused, time and again.

The laws against public assembly and protests were originally and historically used to combat Communist subversion. They were aimed at preventing out-of-control strikes, violent protests, violent public agitation and riots.

But since Communist subversion is no longer a present-day problem for our internal security, there is simply no justification -- no compelling or defensible reason -- for maintaining these laws on public assembly and protests.

These laws cannot be justified now and should be repealed immediately.

And if the PAP-dominated Parliament refuses to repeal such unjust, unconstitutional and ridiculous laws, then we certainly need a judicial review of this matter!

Will our highly-paid PAP Government-appointed judges ensure that justice is done?

I studied Political Science and "Modern Govts" at NUS decades ago.If I remember corectly what I had learnt about free democratic societies:
1 The court of law for any dispute is always opened to the general public to show transparency and fairness and compliance with all the laws/rules of the land.
2 Every witness, much more the plaintiff, subpoenaed by counsel of either side MUST attend the court hearing to be questioned/cross-examined. I believe the
only exception to this 2nd "democratic" law is a person with royal blood such as Britain's royal family.
I believe the above 2 rules/laws are an assumed given in any democratic nation in the whole world without any counsel having to appeal to the Court for them, i.e. open court and attendance of the plaintiff/s.
Unless of course S'pore is no longer a democratic country notwithstanding its first-world status. I'm sure it still is, as one of the national pledges my 7 yr-old grand-daughter has to recite every morning sharp at 7.30am in her school assembly and facing our National flag with one of the 4 stars representing "democracy" IS to uphold democracy! I may have lost touch due to old age and be mistaken. Will someone more up-to-date with the times please correct and update me on the democratic status of my beloved country S'pore if it has changed/amended since the 50s/60s? Thanks and God bless all good, fair, decent and kind-hearted Singaporeans!

Remember the Fulong Gong case...they used a small court and most the the seats were occupied by "selected" personnels.

Also whatever questions the Chees asked would be objected by the Lee lawyers as irrelevant and "political" in nature and thus objected by the judge.

Or right in the beginning of the of the hearing, the judge would decide that the case is for summary judgement.

Or the Chees could be sued for putting the Lees in stress.

Add the list please.

let's wait and see loh.. you can't do anything also if they suddenly wan it in closed chambers..

Or pigs could fly... Oh they do already! There's a brand called Airpork!

Seriously, if this doesnt go to PROPER open court, I will be so disappointed with the Law in Singapore.

The way I see it, this is a lose-lose situation for the PAP.

If the Lees say no to open court, then the people will say they have something to hide. Or at least think that way.

If the Lees take up Chee Soon Juan's challenge to settle the case in open court and agree to be cross-examined, then they run the risk of public humiliation.

The only way out for the Lees is to do damage control. Take the stand and be cross-examined. Win the case through sound logic and reasoning. Show the world the rule of law still applies in Singapore.

If they shy from cross-examination, then it just proves that they have something to hide and that the rule of law somehow does not apply to 'royalty'.

Crew

it boils down to this, my opinion is that if you cannot handle people saying true or untrue things about you in the public eye then here's my advice... DO NOT BE A POLITICIAN OR DO NOT SEEK OR HOLD A PUBLIC OFFICE.

southeast asia has a reputation of dictators, cheats, corrupt politicians, and no matter how clean singapore claims to be, it makes no difference to the rest of the world when they see the leaders, daddy and son, suing an opposition candidate.

do you know how many times obama and clinton have "defamed" each other in the u.s. election? now imagine them going to court for all of that. sounds stupid, sounds ridiculous... and there you go.

singaporeans are going to wonder why, or how is it these two (obama) and clinton) do not go to court to settle "defamations". the answer is because these two are true politicians. these two expect truths and untruths to come out because they CHOSE to be in the public eye. these are first world politicians. could you imagine president bush going to court with his daddy because someone said he is running the country like a monkey without brains? younger bush would be in court forever.

anyways, since it does look like a UFO sitting on that building I guess it is right to expect anything in the universe to happen in there.

note... second paragraph last sentence in my earlier post should've read suing an opposition ex-candidate