http://yoursdp.org/ Tue, 07 Sep 2010 21:14:36 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://yoursdp.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=357#josc133 [quote=Kai Xiong]Yeah why give free publicity for a call to electoral reform. Everybody knows we have free and fair elections B)[/quote] Eww.. poor boy doesnt even know where he is living in, what kinda books he had been studying. Free and fair elections??? NEVER!! Unless PAP loses big time! min xin Wed, 09 Apr 2008 02:11:10 +0100 http://yoursdp.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=357#josc112 Its sad that even NUS is under Lees control... :( Mon, 07 Apr 2008 17:16:57 +0100 http://yoursdp.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=357#josc108 http://yoursdp.org/component/content/article/1-singapore/367-ridge-interview-with-dr-chee-not-just-part-of-the-research-process Singapore Democrats Mon, 07 Apr 2008 05:58:46 +0100 http://yoursdp.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=357#josc103 [quote=LCC]"The Ridge: Not a mouthpiece for SDP": [url]http://ridgeonline.wordpress.com/2008/04/06/the-ridge-not-a-mouthpiece-for-sdp/[/url][/quote] NUS is an institution of higher learning and supposely, the best of the best intellectuals. The people of Singapore must expect more from NUS students other than being 'complacent' book worms. Hopefully, as the future leaders of Singapore, young and with verve, as well as world wisely, you are able to see the shortcomings of our society and political system and make contributions to its improvements. You need to debate aggressively on our political system and look at how best it can be improved further. Just because the existing government tells you that they are the best in the world doesn't mean that it is. Politics will determine the type of life you and your children will live. As a parent myself, when I was young, I cowardly did not stand up to government and let the government ride rough shod over us with the changes to the constitution and gave up our civil rights. The changes now affect my child and me. Don't make the same mistakes and completely trust the government and politicians. Singaporeans need to demand more answers from our government and make them more accountable. We need to question their policies and stand our ground and be more vocal. SDP,WP, NSP are the only opposition parties in Singapore and many credible opposition members have literally been decimated by law suits. Unfortunately, our mainstream media practises self censorship as do most of our local medias and very seldom publishes alternative viewpoints unless it is from the ruling party. Does The Ridge practise this self censorship and if yes, why is there a need to do that in an institute of higher learning? Sylvester Lim Mon, 07 Apr 2008 02:12:05 +0100 http://yoursdp.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=357#josc92 "The Ridge: Not a mouthpiece for SDP": [url]http://ridgeonline.wordpress.com/2008/04/06/the-ridge-not-a-mouthpiece-for-sdp/[/url] LCC Sun, 06 Apr 2008 02:56:08 +0100 http://yoursdp.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=357#josc91 Actually, why not NUS invite Dr Chee for a talk? Then he would be able to communicate his ideas and no one has to debate on whether (or why) an article was not published. Dingo Sun, 06 Apr 2008 02:23:30 +0100 http://yoursdp.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=357#josc87 hey the ridge is not a mouthpiece for sdp man.. dont expect nus to publish everything sdp says.. nus Sat, 05 Apr 2008 22:14:10 +0100 http://yoursdp.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=357#josc86 Get off your high horse no one owes your outdated rhetoric free publicity stop using LKY tactics. Why on earth do you expect an independent publication to be your mouthpiece???? NUS Student Sat, 05 Apr 2008 21:40:55 +0100 http://yoursdp.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=357#josc85 Our lame PM when he first took over, said that we need to have a inclusive, open society,but pap can't stand up to criticism,it will never change for the next 2 decades.The only way to change them is thru ballot box, but then again election dept. is under PM office,they may play cheat to hold on to power. Gary Teoh Sat, 05 Apr 2008 21:31:13 +0100 http://yoursdp.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=357#josc81 Another demoralizing example of how Singapore's press freedom wasteland has crippled everyone with fear of getting sued. They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security -Benjamin Franklin wagingpeace Sat, 05 Apr 2008 09:35:16 +0100 http://yoursdp.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=357#josc79 It's quite sad to see that even the NUS were also polluted by fear of lawsuits from the Lee family. What has our world come to? Henry Windgates Sat, 05 Apr 2008 07:13:41 +0100 http://yoursdp.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=357#josc74 [quote=Kai Xiong]Yeah why give free publicity for a call to electoral reform. Everybody knows we have free and fair elections B)[/quote][quote=Selene Cheng]SDP, I used to write for The Ridge. A large part of the funding for The Ridge (money for printing) comes from the Powers That Be at the university. The editors have to think very carefully about what they publish because they do not control the purse strings. It is possible that the censorship was due to this reason. That being said, I have something to say in the editors' defence. I have written controversial Ridge articles before on overzealous Christian proselytizing, and also on the usage of swear words, and I've gotten published in The Ridge. So don't be so quick to judge.[/quote] Yep! SDP, Dr Chee, Freedom of Speech & Assembly are taboo subjects in democratic Singapore. Poor NUS students! The powers to be must have deemed that your minds have to be protected from evil thoughts. Censorship is censorship no matter what excuses or reasons you give. Sylvester Lim Sat, 05 Apr 2008 03:18:38 +0100 http://yoursdp.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=357#josc71 SDP, I used to write for The Ridge. A large part of the funding for The Ridge (money for printing) comes from the Powers That Be at the university. The editors have to think very carefully about what they publish because they do not control the purse strings. It is possible that the censorship was due to this reason. That being said, I have something to say in the editors' defence. I have written controversial Ridge articles before on overzealous Christian proselytizing, and also on the usage of swear words, and I've gotten published in The Ridge. So don't be so quick to judge. Selene Cheng Fri, 04 Apr 2008 23:31:29 +0100 http://yoursdp.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=357#josc68 Yeah why give free publicity for a call to electoral reform. Everybody knows we have free and fair elections B) Kai Xiong Fri, 04 Apr 2008 20:45:19 +0100 http://yoursdp.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=357#josc67 i was reading through the transcript.. it's the same old csj rhetoric again. i'm not surprised why this didnt make it to publish -> boring. why should nus do free publicity for sdp and csj? nus_student Fri, 04 Apr 2008 19:01:49 +0100 http://yoursdp.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=357#josc66 did anyone check with the school, the author or the ridge before making such an allegation? nus_student Fri, 04 Apr 2008 18:55:12 +0100 http://yoursdp.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=357#josc59 [quote=Gary Teoh]Old Lee = Mugabe, if he loses the election, he will call in the military.[/quote] Or the private Gurkha battallion! Dingo Fri, 04 Apr 2008 11:32:44 +0100 http://yoursdp.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=357#josc55 [quote=Lingshen Chen]hi before everyone starts jumping to unfounded conclusions, the Ridge did publish this article here: http://ridgeonline.wordpress.com/2008/02/04/sdp-reform-the-election-system/ based on the above interview. My very humble learnings tell me that reporters will interview many people for an article, and not publishing the full interview transcripts hardly count as censorship. It's called journalism.[/quote] If you read Kelvin's published article carefully, its based on the events at the forum and not based on the interview with Chee Soon Juan. Whatever Chee was reported to have said in Kelvin's published article was said at the forum. In any case, there have been past instances of censorship or self-censorship not only in NUS but also in Singapore in general when it comes to local politics. Especially journalism. Pseudonymity Fri, 04 Apr 2008 08:07:31 +0100 http://yoursdp.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=357#josc53 the link i posted in my previous post seems to have a space inserted: there should not be a space at sdp-re form. very mystical online forces. here's the link again, i hope it turns out right: http://ridgeonline.wordpress.com/2008/02/04/sdp-reform-the-election-system/. My take is that just as an artist who paints a picture is not obliged to use up all the paint that was purchased, the reporter's article is about the forum. Why should the interview transcript be included? There were also other speakers at the forum; should their interview transcripts be included? And my take again: the Ridge as a magazine medium is published monthly so articles would have been written way before it is distributed so any news stories will lose its timeliness and so I don't see the printed version as being very news-oriented. The online portal remedies that; there really is no point in duplicating a story that has already lost its timeliness in print. My last take: I do agree that local media is heavily censored but it really is unfair to spill over this generalizations into this issue in this case; the reporter wrote an article on the Forum and of course material must be omitted, let alone lengthy interview transcripts. Lingshen Chen Fri, 04 Apr 2008 05:42:43 +0100 http://yoursdp.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=357#josc51 Mr L Chen, ref your comment above, may I know whether the abridged (not censored according to you) article was published in the hard copy magazine called The Ridge? From your statement, it looks like the shortened article was only posted to the ridgeonline. If this be the case, censorship as alleged by the Democrats is still correct as presumably the magazine is posted to all NUS students and staff but not the blog. In any case, NUS students in the know can always surf the SDP blog if they want to read the full unabridged artcle.I'm very sure those interested in S'pore politics in all our tertiary institutions not just NUS know the SDP website identity. Unless of course, Dr Chee was pre-informed that his interview would be jounalistically abridged and posted online in the e-Ridge but not published in the magazine itself. mike Chan Fri, 04 Apr 2008 03:52:04 +0100 http://yoursdp.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=357#josc50 Dear Lingshen, Hope I am not jumping to yet another unfounded conclusion but your link opens up to a blank page. Johnny Lim Fri, 04 Apr 2008 03:46:01 +0100 http://yoursdp.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=357#josc49 hi before everyone starts jumping to unfounded conclusions, the Ridge did publish this article here: http://ridgeonline.wordpress.com/2008/02/04/sdp-reform-the-election-system/ based on the above interview. My very humble learnings tell me that reporters will interview many people for an article, and not publishing the full interview transcripts hardly count as censorship. It's called journalism. Lingshen Chen Fri, 04 Apr 2008 02:02:22 +0100 http://yoursdp.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=357#josc48 Old Lee = Mugabe, if he loses the election, he will call in the military. Gary Teoh Fri, 04 Apr 2008 01:55:14 +0100 http://yoursdp.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=357#josc47 Lee Kuan Yew's lawsuits and threats has caused our academic institutions to function in fear. This has largely crippled the intellectual life in this country. NUS don't even have the balls to publish material featuring opposition parties. This is quite a sad and pathetic situation. Kudos to Lee Kuan Yew on that. Paul Poh Fri, 04 Apr 2008 00:31:04 +0100 http://yoursdp.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=357#josc45 I doubt there was any order from the Govt to remove the "offending" interview-article. The NUS top shots did a total self-censorship to cover their backsides. These brainy academics took the easy way out as they must be aware of the ongoing suit taken out by Father&Son against the Far East Economic Review for a "similar" interview given by Dr CSJ just 2 years ago. Denial and the fear of facing the truth are what drive despots to censor, even completely, such hard copies.Never mind, I'm sure 99% of NUS students and staff have access to the Internet and can read this excellent interview in its uncensored entity. Democracy is at our door-steps now in the year 2008 ahead of the GE 2011....let's not miss the opportunity! mike Chan Thu, 03 Apr 2008 21:38:08 +0100 http://yoursdp.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=357#josc44 Good interview & good responses! I'm starting to like the new format of this website. It always interesting to come in here and read "the other side of the story". Edwin Thu, 03 Apr 2008 20:51:16 +0100