Singapore Democrats

[size=medium][color=red][b]THOUSANDS GATHER AT FUEL PRICE RALLY AT M'SIA

SINGAPOREANS CAN DO BETTER - SDP CAN PAVE THE WAVE!

As on attendee/citisen said," We would like the govt to hear our problems and help us but they are only helping themselves lavishly"[/b][/color][/size]

What if some day a group of 20+ activists carrying anti-SDP banners and posters, gathered outside SDP HQ and shouted anti-SDP slogans, calling Dr Chee names. Assume they behave in exactly the same way the TBT protesters did - loud but non-violent. Would Dr Chee call the police? Demand that they be removed and arrested? Would he go out and try to tear down their banners? Certainly, the police will do so, even if Dr Chee does not call them. Then, will the SDP still insist that those activists have a right to free speech? Freedom of speech must apply both ways. If SDP walks its talk, then it must take such an anti-SDP protest in its stride and give the protesters the same rights it demands for itself.

[size=medium][color=red][b]cAN YOU EVER BELIEF THAT LKY Man said all this below:

"If we say that we believe in democracy, if we say that the fabric of a democratic society is one which allows for the free play of idea...then, in the name of all the gods, give that free play a chance to work within the constitutional framework." - Opposition leader Lee Kuan Yew, Singapore Legislative Assembly, Oct 4, 1956

Moral of the story: He never preaches what he practices - POLITICAL HYPORCRITE![/b][/color][/size]

Suraya and Jufri, you have my utmost respect!!! When more people like you can come and stand up against the oppression and greed of the PAP, there will be a brighter Singapore!!!

Can't cope with bills doesn't mean it's all PAP or the government problem..

It's really your own problem and earning capacity.

People often thought FREEDOM means FREE THINGS..

No free lunch anywhere in the world, NOT even in the US.

You can see so many poor people lining up for food in the US.

Freedom too, there.. and poverty for some people even in the most democratic country.

DEMOCRACY does not solve POVERTY.

SDP seems to have many adoring kids.

To Mike.

I think you are failing to see the bigger picture.

According to the Straits Times polls, the lower income group salary had not rise for many many donkey years.

and with all the hikes and inflation that are going up.....

can you casually said...
"It's really your own problem and earning capacity."

That is the reason why you see more grannies and grandpas picking up metal cans and cardboards.

What doesn't work in other countries, doesn't mean we CANNOT improve on that.
Btw, we started ERP first b4 any country.

If you are earning decent, then please spare a thought for the lower income group.

[quote=Enquirer]What if some day a group of 20+ activists carrying anti-SDP banners and posters, gathered outside SDP HQ and shouted anti-SDP slogans, calling Dr Chee names. Assume they behave in exactly the same way the TBT protesters did - loud but non-violent. Would Dr Chee call the police? Demand that they be removed and arrested? Would he go out and try to tear down their banners? Certainly, the police will do so, even if Dr Chee does not call them. Then, will the SDP still insist that those activists have a right to free speech? Freedom of speech must apply both ways. If SDP walks its talk, then it must take such an anti-SDP protest in its stride and give the protesters the same rights it demands for itself.[/quote]

I think its more likely the neighbors of the SDP office will call the police! Haha.

If I ever have a family myself, I hope it will be like that of Jufri and Suraya.

Lions indeed!

"""No free lunch anywhere in the world, NOT even in the US."""

In the US, if one wants to be fast tracked to US citizenship. One has to join the military to fight in Iraq or Afganistan.

In Singapore, the PAP Govt is giving out citizenship as soon as these foreigners nod their heads....after some convincing (begging) by the PAP govt.

BTW

What a beautiful family. The look on the kids faces tells it all.

The LOVE that the parents - Suraya and Jufri - have for them and their future.

THank You

To Mike:
No one is blaming the government for inflation. It's a world-wide issue. However, the government CAN and SHOULD implement policies to reduce the high inflation.

Just saying "It's a world-wide issue" does not solve anything thing. The man on the street still feels the heat of the high cost of living.

Freedom does not mean free things. Just like eating at MacDonalds does not equate one being a Big Mac.

Freedom also does not also mean poverty will be resolved.

However when the common man is facing crisis in paying everyday bills, buying daily necessities, and yet the ministers are paying themselves millions (with another pay increase towards 4th quarter), something is not right.

Now if we have a 2-party system, then perhaps there is a choice to see which party is the preferred choice to lead the country. And you won't have ministers paying themselves milions just because their findings say so.

I think you have all your facts mixed up. People are asking for a right to voice out and be free in saying that the government is not doing enough to help the common man on the street.

Democracy does not solve poverty. So does anarchy and dictatorship. So I'm not sure if you understand democracy or any political status at all.

Kaffein

Enquirer wrote:
[quote]Would Dr Chee call the police? Demand that they be removed and arrested? Would he go out and try to tear down their banners? Certainly, the police will do so, even if Dr Chee does not call them.[/quote]

If the protest is non-violent and civil I do not think the SDP will call the police. Also, I think perhaps the police may not take action...perhaps the reason they may give is that no one inform them and the leads reached them too late...perhaps perhaps. The SDP and Dr. Chee perhaps may walk out of their HQ office and talk to the protesters and at the end those protesters will be win over!! Yeah! =)

Well said Kaffein, I want to point out also that the definition of poor in USA is very different then with Spore. Since USA is a rich country, the so called "poor" still at least have their own house, HD-TV, cars etc. They will receive money every mth if they lose their job (yes there is free lunch here). At my university here I studied that the majority that are on welfare really need help. Of course there are some who abuse the social security system by taking money and refusing to get a job. But that doesn't mean that USA government can do away the system. I remember PAP always saying that benefit system will not work in Spore. This is bull. PAP just don't want to be responsible and care for Sporeans thats all. In USA, you will not see me or most of Americans abusing the system. I think Dr Chee and SDP can serve Spore much better than the PAP. Thank you.

Hi Jufri and Suraya

If worse case the both of you were to be jailed unjustly and need to be incarcerated at the same time and need child care help, do not worry...I believe the MCYS child protection division will be hilighted of the situation and I am sure it is their duty to make sure that your three children will be well taken care of under foster care during the days of your incarceration (of course we are hoping this will not need to happen).

I would advocate against conviction, let alone say incarceration. You are model parents who are willing to stand in the gap and make a difference. Your children must be very proud of you. Just let me know if you need help to advocate for your case in relation to child care constraints in case you really get incarceration. I am willing to help check out the resources available and do the linking up.

How come nobody commented on my English? Should be "adorable" kids, not "adoring"!

so proud of you

Our respect must surely go out to Suraya and Jufri for taking a stand for Singaporeans on the cost of living and for a better Singapore for our children. They are an example of what ordinary Singaporeans can do for the country. As a group of Singaporeans, we are able to achieve the unthinkable, a Great Country for Singaporeans.

Hi,

I hope every one of you who will have to attend court on 11th July for the hearing, please just voice out in mitigation that you have no choice but was hoping that the government will listen your words of protest against the high living cost for yourself and on behalf of majority Singaporeans and felt the necessity of standing outside the parliament house.

Tell the court that it is very surprising that you all were taken when it was a peaceful assembly. This way whatever you are saying will be recorded. I know it will be no use but it is better to say it through 'proper channel'. In the hope that more and more Singaporeans will be AWARE!! May the judge have to take note about this.

I'll pray that you all will only get a stern warnings instead of any sentences. (But I also suspect there'll be curfew hours too- sorry about that.) Good Luck!! Hope it'll be over soon.

[quote=Mdm YY Yeong]How come nobody commented on my English? Should be "adorable" kids, not "adoring"![/quote]

Haha, well at least you're humble enough to point out your own mistake!

It will be a sham, if you guys have to go to jail for this protest. If atall it have to be let it be but belive me some day in future you will feel that your hard work has been paid. The happiness you feel will be the real miss for others.
Freedom does not come easy, it comes with a price and you are paying it now. May be I will not be in Singapore to see your joy that day but I know YOU SHALL OVER COME SOME DAY.

Another excellent writeup by SG Democrats!

I have copied onto my blog and will further publicize it later on.

This series of articles (including the one on Jaslyn) is very well written.

Now that is true love for the family and country.

My question is- maybe I haven't been reading the whole website... but does the SDP have any platform or policies they would instill if they are put in office? CSJ is there as the person who wakes us up from our ignorance. But is he also the one who will run against the PM in the upcoming election should they be allowed? I know this question sounds weird.

The PAP Government, ever since Lee Kuan Yew became Prime Minister, and later under successive leaders Goh Chok Tong and now Lee Hsien Loong, has never disguised its need to control both the mass media and public opinion in its favour.

Under Lee Kuan Yew's regime, the main function of the mass media is to set a general agenda to which all must adhere. This general agenda, needless to say, reflects the opinions and interests of the governing elites and corporations which run Singapore.

Through a sophisticated journalistic process, these pro-PAP editors cultivate this general agenda in their reports, articles, features and commentaries by selecting certain topics, by framing and emphasizing certain issues, by filtering information, and by setting boundaries to acceptable debate.

As a result, the picture of Singapore that is presented to the local populace and to the world by the national press and media serves the interests of the power and economic elite in Singapore.

On the one hand, our media set the agenda for the political class; and on the other hand, they dull the brains of the population at large by disseminating and broadcasting undisguised trivialities.

To repeat, the function of the media under Lee Kuan Yew is not to promote democratic debate. Rather, it is to deselect, to marginalise, to categorise as "lunatic" any thoughts that are controversial, that have transgressed the fixed parameters within which discussions are allowed to legitimately occur.

The consequence of all such censorship of opinions and thoughts is that only platitudes or conventional thoughts are allowed to be expressed through the media.

The media in Singapore operate in this manner because they are organised to serve the interests of the power and economic elite. The media here ensure that the interests of the rich and the powerful are served--not the needs of the suffering people.

The mass media--the press, radio and television--in Singapore do not allow the public to assert meaningful control over the political process. They only serve to indoctrinate the political class, the well-educated of the population. The remaining members of the population are systematically encouraged merely to follow orders and not to think. This is how the PAP Government has manufactured the so-called "national consent" that has allowed it to be voted into power in elections after elections over the years.

Singaporeans live in webs of endless PAP lies--in an indoctrinated society where basic truths are easily buried.

I am reading your website now.. thanks.. no need to post my comment :)

Jufri and Su,

Despite the intimidation tactics from the ruling party, we show no fear..not because we are defiant..but because we want them to know..

INTIMIDATION does not work on us..REASONING and NEGOTIATION do..

[quote]I believe the MCYS child protection division will be hilighted of the situation and I am sure it is their duty to make sure that your three children will be well taken care of under foster care during the days of your incarceration (of course we are hoping this will not need to happen). [/quote]

Crazy. That's the last that'll ever happen.

And even if they did take in, be sure the establishment will want to 'knock some sense' into their children, subtly REMINDING that their parents are criminals, that's why they are jailed.

Whichever way, the PAP must go - total change must come.

Or Singapore will forever be under the same system that sucks everything out of it and its citizens.

Business as usual won't do anymore. The leopard will never change its spots; the old fox will never get out of its crafty, sly nature - don't ever believe otherwise.

If the protest is ever going to be successful, it can never be achieved by only one political party. NGOs have to also be brought into the bandwagon.

[b]Hey whatever happened to our dear Mr G Nair?

The Lee Detention Centre must be having a good time ripping him apart!

Do keep us posted?[/b]

Wondering if anyone knows if Gopalan Nair can still get access to his Blog to post?

Also, it may be a cooincidence, but it seems that everytime he post something, the PAP retaliate back, and harassed him further, within days of his posting.

If you look at his Blog, he posted on Day 25, 27, 29 and 40.

At first they charge him for emailing Belinda. Then somewhere around day 25+ or so, they charge him for emailing the other Judge. Then they drop the email charge to Belinda, after Gopalan tells people that the Police got his password.

The big one came when he post on Day 40 that he cannot take it any longer, and is going for a 1-person protest.

Just after that, he was arrested and charged for disorderly behavior, and resisting arrest by police, etc!!!
There is a video interview from Gopalan by Uncle Yap after the Tah Boleh Tahan at Bishan. In it, Gopalan claimed that he was in fact attacked by many plainsclothes police (not in uniform) who did not identify themselves, or tell him of any charges. They just shouted at Gopalan, attacked him, pin him on the ground, beat him up. In the interview, he got bruizes to show, and his glasses is broken.

He said that he was going to update his blog too... but I've not seen that happen. I think the blogging community needs to watch out for Gopalan... in case he gets further harassed, and something happen to him, so he cannot post...

Please keep an eye on his safety and help him out!!!

[quote]I believe the MCYS child protection division will be hilighted of the situation and I am sure it is their duty to make sure that your three children will be well taken care of under foster care during the days of your incarceration (of course we are hoping this will not need to happen). [/quote]

well, i thought so too, that that will be the last that must happen, and we certainly hope this will not happen. It is meant as a dig at the government, that they will have to count their costs and the consequence into wanting to mete out jail charges as penalty on parents like Jufri and Suraya...the costs which the government has to pay for, far outweighs the need for them to jail couple in my opinion...which means they must count not only the monetary cost but the cost to the entire inter-ministerial functions...which includes a lot of social costs, etc. Plus a lot of time will be taken up by those civil servants not only from the MHA but now another ministry, the MCYS will most likely will have to be roped in too if the scenario of both getting incarceration do happen. And this seems to me a misappropriation of
national resources and it translates into a reflection on how well or how badly the government is managing the scare resources which we as a small nation has.

and ya...i wonder if this is also in line with the campaign on "the best interests of the child" which the MCYS is mooting. In October 1995, Singapore became signatory to the United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child (UNCRC), pledging its commitment to the well-being of children.

Children's daily needs, both emotional and physical, of course need to be taken care of by their own parents foremost.

But surely if in the worse case scenario of incarceration of both together, which Jufri hilighted a concern somewhere earlier, we have to think of ways to help advocate for the couple for their child care needs if in case they face resource constraints in this aspect. =)

Hi Suraya, Hello Jufri

You are brave, determined and dedicated couple. I will surely vote for you anytime when you to stand for the general elections.

Hey guys...
Over the last few hours, there is suddenly a LARGE SPIKE OF THUMB DOWN voting on this website.
I suspect that the PAP TROLLING TEAM is at work here, doing their mischieve.
It's not difficult to imagine how they do it. Get on to a network of computer. Use different machines to vote THUMB DOWN.. now suddenly in an hour's time, all the anti-PAP posting get something like -15!!! All this happening in an hour??? I've been reading on this website for a long time, and have never seen such a large spike of negative thumb down voting....

The negative spike is HIGHLY SUSPICIOUS. Can the SDP administrator investigate??

Thank u guys for the comments. We really appreciate it. Right now, we really need moral support from all of u out there. We need more Singaporeans to be fully aware of unjust happenings and hope that there will be lesser ignorant and selfish Singaporeans. Do come to show support on the day of the hearing on Fri 11th July Subordinate Court CT 23 9am..

Hi Surayah
I will be there at the courts this Friday to support you and your other comarades, this is the least I can do. Thanks for all that you have done. =)

Thank u A.Chia for ur support. We really hope to see u there..Thank you once again..

Saudara Jufri and Saudari Suraya,

My Muslim friend told me that the prophet ever said,

"If we come across something wrong, we must take action to correct it."

"If we are unable to take action to correct it, we must speak openly against it."

"If we are unable even to speak against it, we must keep this in our mind and speak or act against it when time is right."

Both of you have taken the most courageous steps. Most of us still at the "keeping in mind" stage.

You have our highest respects.

God bless.

YOU HAVE MY UPMOST SUPPORT JUFRI AND SURAYA!!!!! KEEP GOING!!!

Thank u for those who gave us all the wonderful comments. We really need your moral support. And if u guys can come on Fri, pls pls do so..we will be very very happy to see u guys showing up to support us all..Thank u once again..Best Regards Surayah

Thank u Sid..We really appreciate your motivational comments ;) We will keep going!!!

Jufri & Suraya, what you have done is closer in spirit to the teachings of Confucius than LKY will ever be. His cynical and highly selective reading of Confucius is there only to manipulate the pliable Singaporean.

This quote by Amartya Sen comes from his article which appeared in the Summer 98 Harvard International Review -
[i]Even the portrayal of Confucius as an unmitigated authoritarian is far from convincing. Confucius did believe in order, but he did not recommend blind allegiance to the state. When Zilu asks him how to serve a prince, Confucius replies, "Tell him the truth even if it offends him"- -a policy recommendation that may encounter some difficulty in contemporary Singapore or Beijing[/i]

Telling LKY that he is wrong has been left to people like you because his spineless ministers dare not offend him and have therefore neglected their duty to those they are supposed to serve. I applaud your action. You put to shame those so-called chinamen. They are a disgrace to their race.

[quote]Justice - You have my utmost respect Mon, 07 Jul 2008 6:57 pm

When more people like you can come and stand up against the oppression and greed of the PAP, there will be a brighter Singapore!!! [/quote]


What about you, justice? Hope you aren't one of those Singaporean armchair critics who sit back and let others 'do the work' while you hope they may perhaps eventually bring about change FOR YOU.

There's been too many, too many instances of Singaporeans egging on their fellow Singaporeans to 'go, go, go' and yet when the time mattered, these eggers-on shrank and disappeared into nothingness.

Which is why Juan and Chin and John and Kenny and Ti Lik and so many others now, despite all these setbacks by those who keep calling themselves 'supporters', they nonetheless went ahead with their beliefs, their convictions, ad will go on doing so.

So, hat say you, man, Justice? You and all other like-minded good folks. Time to break out of the shell and come give a good roosting, boot out the LEEsons.

WHAT SAY YOU?

to mike, looks like you have never travel beyond singapore. Here in OZ, we have fortnight payment for family with kids and you don't have to line up. Just withdraw from the ATM every fortnight mate. So please get your facts correct and state the TRUTH !

That must be part of being citizens, not just being herded for citizenship show at the parade, etc., but holding our heads high, breathing and branching out boldly and freely, like strong trees in a natural forest, and not those stunted ones crafted into shapes for show at the botanic gardens.

Contrast that with some colleagues of mine, well paid, but phobic. When I reassured them that their fears for themselves were exaggerated (after all we were almost at the end of our career, being due for retirement), they said "but they can get your children". Dear dear, their fears are eternal - is that what is meant by eternal hell? And theother day, a retired principal and MOE official said "We can only vote the PAP, being pensioners and committed to good conduct."!!!

Does the PAP know the sort of votes a good proportion of their voters are?

If they are concerned for Singapore and our citizenship education, they should worry, and work to eradicate such fears, and educate voters rather than thrive by the fears ("If I were not feared, then I count for nothing")

[b]What an insult to Singaporeans:

PM interviewed by Nanfang Yeukan recently and the the interview found most of the problems raised were [color=red][b]trifles[/b][/color] such as :

no money for utility bills, leaks in house, application for a hawker's licence etc Are these a test of your patience? PM laughs and answers???

What a PM-laughing at Singaporeans problems???[/b]

[color=maroon][b]Giving back to society should begin at the top

PM Lee’s call for the spirit of charity to be more widely embraced is a right one, but that call should first be heeded by the highest echelons of his own administration, not just in personal charity and donations especially in light of their astronomical salaries![/b][/color]

more ERp gantries are being set-up and activated..

guys, if that does not make you angry, let me share another fact with with, regarding the LTA, that will surely boil your blood..

my NUS fren, graduated last yr, employed by LTA, got a pay increase of close to $700 within 6 months of workin for LTA!!

imagine that, i have done project works with him before, hang out with him b4 and i can vouch that he ain't those hardworkin / outstandin knid of staff whereby you are willin to give such an amount of pay raise..

and btw, does LTA thinks that it is in the same league as MAS or GIC or Temasek?
muz pay so much for an unproven "talent"?

normally, i should be happy for my fren that he's climbed to such a high pay within 1 yr of graduation.. BUT, at the expenses of all motorists?
damn it!

[color=blue][b]Suraya and Jufri and family

You have the highest values and ideals.

Do not let the Lee Junta destroy what you have got!

Like what they have done and are doing to65% of Stinkaporeans.

We are certainly proud of you guys!

Well Done![/b][/color]

Stop putting up photos of families in happier times and say unrelated things like 'does this look like a picture of criminals?' Your underhand tactics of sensationalizing the issue is very much despised. Try taking a murderer's family photo taken when he was younger and say, 'does that man look like a murderer?'

What we need is an opposition party that walk the talk and propose alternatives to make our lives better.

"Singaporean", this is no sensationalising!

People are being charged in court, and there are penalties!

And they could be any one of our families (maybe not yours), and not rioters such as those the law forbidding grouping is meant to deter.

So, the point being made is the pointlessness of the state prosecuting such families as that shown in the picture.

Again, apply the spirit of the law, and not put our judiciary in disrepute by applying it mindlessly, or worse, to punish your political opponents.

what the hell? 700 pay increase? while i pay more in ERP?

cannot, this fact must be made known to the public!

how can? i thot LTA is not-for-profit? dun tell me they have golden taps too..

So you are the cow and CSJ and supporters are leading you by the nose.

Good luck

i 4got to add that my NUS-LTA fren got a 2nd upper honours in building, BUT, his grades were only pulled up in the final semester, meaning to say that all the while, in his four years of study, his grades belonged to 2nd lower and below!

and i was like, shit, u call this type of grad a talent worth 700 more in his first year?

i really muz stop whining, coz if not, i will really shoot an email up to the LTA HR and demand a public explanation..

anybody wanna bet that those new hires at other stat boards / MAS / GIC are not getting that much increments?

Quote:..."""Your underhand tactics of sensationalizing the issue is very much despised. Try taking a murderer's family photo taken when he was younger and say, 'does that man look like a murderer?'"""...

To the so called 'Singaporean' above. Your despicable comments shows your true vile baised PAP bootlinking background.

In the first place, why is it a crime when one does something that is provided under the constitution.

You got that through your head?! The country's constitution. Not some kid's game.

It's a crime just 'cos the PAP says so? What is your and the PAP's agenda in declaring part of the contitution as illegal?! So what underhand tactics are you talking about? Why compare something that is provided under the constitution the to actions of a murderer?!

What is your evil agenda here?

SDP has provide solutions to better people's lives. Namely, calling for reduction or elimination of GST. Calling for more transparency on CPF vis a vis the annual returns and more money to be RETURNED to the owners upon retirement. Calling for for grants and aid to the poor and needy of our people.

Tell 'Singaporean', won't these measures improve people's lives. Why is it impt to you that people don't speak you or protest against policies that burden the people further!

You are an evil person.

Thinktot, I'm afraid, is still thinking tot, and not thinking.

Nothing said in his remark.

Blowing "hot air"?

"My master always right" syndrome?

I would worry, if my voters are made of stuff like you!

[color=maroon][b]Aiyah Silver Servants and Lee Junta very very Rich mah??

You mean LTA only. If you dig more deeper more can of worms -how about MOH etc??

What is $700 increment??

Per ERP toll they collect per day can cover how much?? What is the fuss you guys making??

The Lees are laughing at you guys??

Per Day how much they are collecting in the name of taxes, gst lah etc etc. We are the usual lame suckers!

Even for NDP - all at our expense who sweat and who are the ones enjoying? Please lah wake up???[/b][/color]

"Manipulated"? No to Manipulative!! Down with Tyranny and end all Profiteering. The Loathsome, Greed that shines through the Teeth and the Mouth is Nauseating. Manipulative spews falsehood and platitude that would make even SQUEALER, look like a school-girl novice.

When Manipulative can't balance the books they balance the checks

seriously, i dun dare 2 tink how much are civil servants paying themselves nowadays..

are they really worth it? IF they are really "servants", then please let them work 6 days a week, with a day off, jus like domestic servants..

You people are quarrelling over an article...

And going too far off topic.

The article just wants you to recognise them as Singapore's heroes.

So do you think them as heroes or troublemakers?

Make your choice!

But the court will have the FINAL decision...

Your opinion actually doesn't matter.

Mike ar Mike..
the more i see your silly posts, the more sorry i feel for you. You obviously have no idea why you even lived and is very very confused about life. You need others to cage you, control your movements so that you know when you have a stomachache you need to shit, all over yourself that is.

Democracy may not solve poverty.
But without democracy, it leads to POVERTY.
It's happening in singapore and to singaporeans now.
The rich will be richer (the govt)
and the poor... you slog and work all your pathetic life and you will still have no say. Your money is Govt's money. Govt's money will never be your money dumbass...
ala Burma.

[quote]You obviously have no idea why you even lived and is very very confused about life. You need others to cage you[/quote]

Stop talking like you know about things.

your brain is just full of shit..

That is why you always support your lovely CSJ..

(PAP) and dares to offer a dissenting opinion becomes a defacto criminal in Singapore.

We all already know that including the paid monkeys. Unfortunately a lot of foreigners either don't care or are bamboozled by the Singapore PR machine. (re: Hollywood and its many paid references to Singapore like Pirates of the Carribean for example).

This is why the PAP government wants to 'get rid' of Dr Chee so desperately.

I've been to Dr Chee's rallies in 2001, met him distributing newletters in 2004 and nowadays, thanks to YouTube, I'm able to listen to his speeches.

He is a very influential person even on YouTube. It would be great if Dr Chee could speak in SDP HQ more and upload online.

The layman Malaysian has woken politically. Soon, I hope the same for my countrymen. I'm seeing MANY sensible blogs nowadays.

Haha, I just realise, no one would ever arrest Obama for speaking ill of President Bush's policy.

Even though you are a Malay & I'm a Chinese, I still want to call you brother!!! As for LKY, he's a disgrace to Chinese & I call him bastard

[color=purple][b]Aiyah please lah you think the Indian Ministers are worthy to be called "brothers" - give us a break lah!

I better call the dogs on the road! Even President with Executive Powers have sold his soul to the PAP for MONEY!!

I think they have more principles and guts![/b][/color]

diam la mike u r just a pappy dog come to bark but luckily sinkees have woke up to yr master's bs liao

shoo shoo go back to yr master's embrace u very smelly here

[quote]one even told me not to waste time and live on as I have quite a big family to manage. but deep inside I know, after we succeed fighting for a democratic Singapore, the friends that said many unsupportive things will be thanking us. same goes to other S'poreans who couldn't care less.[/quote]

So right, Jufri.

Singaporeans still do not realize that even if they achieved, by a stroke of good luck or whatever, millionaire or even multimillionaire status, their lives wouldn't be as grand as they had hoped status would bring without having a say to SAY ANYTHING.

Because in a dictatorship like ours, where whatever the Lees say goes - no but's, no if's - you can never be sure when your last supper will be.

And that's a fact.

Just go ask Wee Cho Yaw, Kwek Leng Beng, Ng Teng Fong - our good old Hokkien Old Boys - and they'll confide in you the truth of that.

"What's the use of having the millions, even billions, when we are forever at those Hakkas' mercy, can't even so much as flatulate without seeking official permission from Istana Annexe Building!!!?"