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Thursday, 11 September 2008

Chee speaking with University officials Michael Ng (centre) and Peck Thian Guan (right)Singapore Democrats

The SDP was prevented from distributing flyers today at NUS. Mr Michael Ng, Director of the Office of Estate and Development, asked leaders of the party not to give away flyers to the students.

"We have to protect the interests of our students," the official said.

"From what?" Dr Chee asked. "Are you running a university or a kindergarten?"


Another official Dr Peck Thian Guan, Director of the Office of Safety, Health & Environment, chipped in, "It's not only you but we don't allow anyone to distribute flyers."

Chee posing for a picture with students A staff member walking by could not resist taking a dig at the officers: "Great job, guys. Thanks so much from keeping us safe!" Messrs Ng and Peck could only smile sheepishly.

Just then several students wanted to take a picture with Dr Chee. A few asked for autographs.

Turning to Mr Ng, Dr Chee said: "The students don't look like they want your protection."

Several more students came up and started popping questions to the leaders. Mr Gandhi Ambalam, Mr Francis Yong, Mr John Tan, and Ms Chee Siok Chin were soon answering students' questions ranging from the state of the opposition to the media to the reality of the economy.

"I have been to Japan many times," one first-year Engineering student said, "and I've never seen seventy- and eighty-year-olds sweeping the floor and cleaning tables like in Singapore. It's so sad." He added that the University seems to be mass producing graduate robots.

Another student from Political Science who had attended the recent defamation hearing between Lee Kuan Yew and the SDP, told Ms Chee that there was still much fear among students.

Gandhi Ambalam chatting with students A journalism major indicated that she "will never join the Straits Times" after she graduated. She probably learned a thing or two in school that didn't quite square with the nonsense that was practiced in the state newspaper.

A couple of other students conducted brief interviews with the SDP leaders for the online university newspaper Campus Observer. From the repeated line of questions, it was clear that the students seemed to be sensitive to the fact that most of their college mates were rather uninformed and apathetic about current affairs. Why is this so, they asked.

"That's not hard to figure out," Dr Chee explained. "From years of authoritarian rule where students have been cowed into silence, we have bred a very unhealthy university culture. The sad part is that you are being deprived of the type of cutting edge educational experience that your counterparts in the top universities elsewhere are getting."

Turning back to officialdom, Dr Chee said that all the SDP wanted to do was to raise political awareness among the students.

John Tan answering questions "Why can't you guys see that education is not just about hitting the books, taking exams and getting that degree," he said. "It's also about developing one's intellectual and moral character. It's not just about producing graduates, but also developing leadership."

Dr Peck said that he too wanted to see students to think beyond their books. He suggested that the SDP write to the student associations and ask them to organise events.

"I've been down that road before. The university administration will say no and then what?" Dr Chee asked.

"Then you come back to me and we'll see what we can work out. You have my word," Dr Peck assured.

Dr Chee then asked some of the students to take the lead and organise themselves to raise political and social awareness on campus. "In the meantime we'll write to some of the student bodies and see if they will organise an event," he promised.


11 September 2008

Donald Koh
President
National University of Singapore Students' Union
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Dear Sir,

My colleagues and I were at NUS today to distribute flyers to raise awareness among your fellow students about our nation's politics.

We were, however, told by University officials that such an exercise was not allowed. They suggested that we write to student organisations to see if an event could be organised for us to address and interact with students.

Being the University's students' union, I would like to ask if you would organise an event for this purpose. From the reaction of the students today, it seems that there is great interest in what we have to say.

Thank you and I look forward to hearing from you soon.

Sincerely,

Gandhi Ambalam
Chairman
Singapore Democratic Party


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Comments (41)
  • Loyola
    You should have written to the Democratic Socialist Club and the NUS Political Association.

    NUSSU only organises bashes at clubs and bazaars..
  • ahsayman - University sheep
    Only PAP shears are allowed to touch the wool of NUS sheep. SDP shears are not.
  • innocence - bankrupt-not-allowed
    Dear Mr Ambalam,

    Thank you for your letter of 11 Sep.

    I must proclaimed that as student union, we are given full liberty to organise forum or talks by any body; though, we need protection from being dished out leaflets... u know what I mean...

    I am certainly happy to have you people come and speak to us on any topic... Yes, any topic...

    But then again, as student leader, the interest of all students is upper most in my mind....

    Before I give u my official confirmation, I must however state that our Union constitution does not permit have to protect our students from talks given by bankrupt people...

    So, please do not include bankrupt people in your list ... u know what I mean... hehe....
  • abc@abc.com
    NUS 's favourite silly past-times : ragging .
  • Old Uncle's Friend - Failure of NUS
    As usually, I am sure SDP is overstating its success. Its a sad thing if the majority of NUS students don't see the SDP for the liars that they are. There would be little hope left. Anyone who has been truly educated will see through SDP's endless lies, its distortion of the truth and its selective reporting. If what the SDP says on its site is true - this site will not exist. The leaders of the Singapore Destruction Party would have been jailed years ago. Just look at the way Chee is glorified on this site. Do you want to install the CHEEGIME in Singapore? Look at how SDP supporters attack other opposition parties. Is this the spirit of democracy? Can a party with the worst performance at the polls claim to represent the people? The SDP is run on the personal agenda of one man - do not be fooled!
  • observer
    it is this kind of kia-su kia-si mindset, and the embarrassingly pro-pap stance of the NUS that are turning away alumni like me.

    they should know why most alumni don't have a sense of identity and affinity with the NUS....

    sad indeed, for someone who has spent so many years there...
  • That first year engineering st - Thank you SDP
    Dear SDP,
    I sincerely appreciate your coming down today as the discourses that I shared with Dr.Chee,Ms Chee and Mr Ambalam were all truly enriching and proved to be a refreshing change from what I have hitherto been reading and hearing from the state controlled media. My exchanges with Mr Ambalam, in particular, were the most exhilarating as he presented me with astonishing and distrubing facts of this nation`s political past and present which I would have never known if not for him. I would also like to express my deepest gratitude to Mr Ambalam for spending over an hour with me to answer my questions and to fill me in with fresh knowledge. As a student of NUS, it is indeed regrettable that our administration behaved in the way they did this afternoon but i would like to have all of you know that although the vast majority of the NUS student population continues to maintain their political apathy, there still are a handful of us who are more than willing to listen to you speak and have you answer our seemingly endless questions.
    Please come down again, we will be waiting.
  • NOT MY SDP - A Mobocrat in the Making
    SDP is playing minds by painting a good picture of itself.

    Yes, a couple of students might stop by and take a picture with you, but do you know how many turned away in your face.

    Being charismatic is not enough. You can draw attention and be a mobocrat. That's dangerous. SDP, do not kill democracy.
  • Tan Tai Wei
    Notice the unconvincing, ambivalent mannerisms of the university officials, in their saying to SDP what they felt they are paid to say and do, and yet unable to totally hide their sympathy with Chee and others.

    Reminds me of an encounter I had, some ten years ago, with the CEO of an organisation, who had come down to have lunch with staff to engage us personally on work matters.

    I raised with him the ethics of his ruling that we had to get clearance from him every time the press approached us for comments. I said that as we were paid by tax-payers to function within the area of our expertise, we had the moral obligation to answer, when queried, on issues that came within that expertise.

    The CEO saw the point, but sheepishly said, looking at me with a pleading look, "But you know....we are not really free in Singapore..." He meant, didn't he, " I know you are right, but please, please, don't get me into trouble"!!

    Another time, with another CEO, a paper was solicted of me to be submitted to a powerful minister in government. CEO wanted me to change a word, only because 'minister wouldn't like it'. I didn't change the meaning of what I said and only substitute it with another word. That was enough to let the paper through!

    Those CEOs must have been among those who appeared life on TV listening and clapping the PM during that May Day speech. But what heart and mind hid behind those smiles and clappings?

    The moral? Restrictive and top-down rule results in appointment of yes-men, who, because appointed on that basis, are wont to keep on saying yes, no matter what go on in their heart and mind.

    And we wonder why, somewhat too late, we are just beginning to, and only artificially, to get our people to 'think'.
  • NOT MY SDP - re: Thank you SDP
    The writing style looks like it's written by the SDP

    [quote=That first year engineering st]Dear SDP,
    I sincerely appreciate your coming down today as the discourses that I shared with Dr.Chee,Ms Chee and Mr Ambalam were all truly enriching and proved to be a refreshing change from what I have hitherto been reading and hearing from the state controlled media. My exchanges with Mr Ambalam, in particular, were the most exhilarating as he presented me with astonishing and distrubing facts of this nation`s political past and present which I would have never known if not for him. I would also like to express my deepest gratitude to Mr Ambalam for spending over an hour with me to answer my questions and to fill me in with fresh knowledge. As a student of NUS, it is indeed regrettable that our administration behaved in the way they did this afternoon but i would like to have all of you know that although the vast majority of the NUS student population continues to maintain their political apathy, there still are a handful of us who are more than willing to listen to you speak and have you answer our seemingly endless questions.
    Please come down again, we will be waiting.[/quote]
  • curious
    "If what the SDP says on its site is true - this site will not exist. The leaders of the Singapore Destruction Party would have been jailed years ago. Just look at the way Chee is glorified on this site."

    this hit it home.
  • AnnA - God Bless
    MAY GOD BLESS YOU ALL - for the better future and changes in Singapore - for the sake of our grandparents and parents - for the sake of our children - and for our sake.

    Ameen.
  • Old Uncle's Fiend - Failure of B.S
    As usual, I am sure PAP is overstating its success. It's a sad, sad situation if the majority of NUS students don't see the PAP for the liars that they are. There is little hope left. Anyone who has been truly educated will see through PAP's endless lies, its distortion of the truth and its selective reporting. If what the PAP claims in its media is true - this site would not be needed.

    The leaders of the Paranoid Anal Party should have been jailed years ago. Just look at the way Lee is glorified in the media. Do you want to perpetuate the LEEGIME in Singapore? Look at how PAP supporters attack other opposition parties and deface their websites. Is this the spirit of democracy? Can a party with the worst abuse of citizen's rights claim to represent the people? The PAP is run on the personal agenda of one man - do not be fooled!
  • maxChew - Fear of the truth being disseminated?
    The NUS officials must have taken their cue from the top-shot of NUS i.e. the President himself, who in turn either did a self-censorship all by himself or consulted the MOE headed by breast-cancer expert Dr Ng Egg Hen.Dr NEH is a likely future PAP PM if no suitable Lee appears after the current Lee leaves his post.(the suitable Wong may be the seat-warmer)
    The NUS is supposed to be the place where the top brains and future leaders are located. I rembered when I was there back in the 60s that their mission statements was "To seek the truth without fear or favor"
    I supposed it now shows clearly that whilst in the 60s we were seeking the truth, now in the noughties they (NUS admin and MOE) are afraid of the TRUTH being disseminated to their "impressionable" students of NUS "Kindergarten"
    A real shame and a sham. Is S'pore now intellectually progressing or regressing in the noughty year 2008?
  • Old Uncle's Friend - To first year engineering student
    Good to see you are concerned about society. I hope you also asked - How would supporting the SDP help the old people in Singapore? So SDP told you a lot of shocking things about our political past? Did you also query Chee about how and why he ousted Chiam See Tong from the SDP, and how the SDP has since then performed miserably at the polls? Should Chee not have to take responsibility for this? Who deserves our respect more - Chiam who has been serving his ward all this time or Chee, who holds no job expect to create trouble?
  • WELL SAID QUOTE - WELL MEANT
    [quote]"Why can't you guys see that education is not just about hitting the books, taking exams and getting that degree," he said. "It's also about developing one's intellectual and moral character. It's not just about producing graduates, but also developing leadership[/quote]

    [b]VERY VERY WELL SAID!

    PAP JUNTA MUST LEARN FROM THIS![/b]
  • Answer pls - Thank you
    [b]This question was raised b4?

    How do we vote for Dr Chee in coming elections??? Is he eligible no thanks to Lee Junta???

    Your kind advise pls???

    Dr Chee is an asset to S'pore's growth![/b]
  • anon - give him a chance
    Well ... in the current state, we can do not worse than give Dr Chee a chance to lead. It the worst case, we will be like Hong Kong .... without a "strongman" leader.
  • Mike - Nothing Better to Do... Too Free
    SDP should be distributing flyers to old folks home too...

    Old folks also have to vote in election..

    Who knows? they may vote the opposition

    But SDP choose to talk to kids instead..

    These students say they will support you but when they graduate later and have to vote...

    They will still vote the PAP because it's safer for them and peace of mind in their early working years..

    Which graduate wants to end up like CSJ?

    nothing better to do.. Too FRee with a lot of Freedom & doing nothing..

    So go and disturb NUS...
  • pm-SAID-so - It must be so
    Mr Old Uncle's Friend,

    If u have state secret, please tell us leh... do not keep all to yourself.

    But, I did remember Chiam said, "IF PM SAID SO, IT MUST BE SO."
  • Anonymous - To Old Uncle's Friend
    dun forget CSJ shouting match with SM Goh over our non-existent loan to Indonesia where CSJ subsquently had to apologise and retract. And who can forget his hunger strike and still drink glucose water. Honest mistake...
  • Brendan - Great idea
    [quote=Mike]SDP should be distributing flyers to old folks home too...

    Old folks also have to vote in election..

    Who knows? they may vote the opposition

    [/quote]

    Great idea!!!! Again thank you Mike.

    You see, the old folks in Western countries are independant. The live in mansions, drive cars and have picnicks in the sun.....and just look at our old folks....collecting card boxes for a living...if too ill to work, locked up in the old folks home. NO CPF? NO FREEDOM!

    You better start planning for your future!
  • Old Uncle's Fiend - Also To 1st Year Eng. student
    Good to see you are concerned about society my dear boy. I hope you also asked - how would supporting the PAP help the old people in Singapore when they had to have their fingernails pulled out before grudgingly lifting allowances for the needy by $30? Did you notice not a one of them blushed at voting to increase their own wages by 1000s of dollars?

    So SDP told you a lot of shocking things about our political past? Did you also query Chee about how and why PAP constantly repeats the smear about an alleged problem with Chiam See Tong? Did you ask why they were worried enough to gag him in their courts so that he couldn't even speak at the SDP's rallies? Should the Lees not have to take responsibility for this?

    Who deserves our respect more - Chee who has been jailed on trumped-up charges all this time or Lee, who holds nothing resembling a legitimate job? Who can we expect to create the most trouble for our poor?
  • Kaput You - Suggested Events
    Organize swim suit competition or wet t-shirt competition. I can confirm they will come.
  • mikee - too bad
    Ang Sung Suu Kyi has been under house arrest for years. So, is she not better qualified than the Burmese Junta?

    Given the press ranking, and the IBA's report on Singapore judiciary, clearly, anything that is given by the system does not mean anything.
  • reader - learned
    From what I've observed, PAP tries very hard to drill the "right values" into Singaporeans head... but somehow, these values fall short and it is not surprising that people begin to ask questions...

    Of course, even though Lee knows he will win the next GE... he is not pleased this is happening. Questioning PAP = Questioning Singapore. LOLx.
  • David
    Good to see you are concerned about society. I hope you also asked - How would supporting the PAP help the old people in Singapore? You means never to retire but collecting metal cans, rubbish till one die ? So Lee propagandize you a lot of lies, damn lies about our political past? Remember Lim Chin Siong, Francis Seow, Chia Thye Poh ? Did you also query LCY about how and why he ousted Lim Chin Siong from Singapore, and how the PAP has since then performed miserably at the polls when his clownful Son, aka Mee Siam Mai Hum takes over from Woody Pecker ? Should Joker Lee not have to take responsibility for this? Who deserves our respect more - Pinkish Lee and his Junta, money-faced regime who has been fixing opp party and buying supporter's vote all this time or Chee, who holds no job expect to create trouble for the sake to liberate Singapore from oppressive and selfish regime ?

    Pick your choice wisely cause it will determine whether you will be collecting tin can when you reach 70s and face tought competition from old FT.
  • Nick - re: Failure of NUS
    [quote=Old Uncle's Friend]As usually, I am sure SDP is overstating its success. Its a sad thing if the majority of NUS students don't see the SDP for the liars that they are. There would be little hope left. Anyone who has been truly educated will see through SDP's endless lies, its distortion of the truth and its selective reporting. If what the SDP says on its site is true - this site will not exist. The leaders of the Singapore Destruction Party would have been jailed years ago. Just look at the way Chee is glorified on this site. Do you want to install the CHEEGIME in Singapore? Look at how SDP supporters attack other opposition parties. Is this the spirit of democracy? Can a party with the worst performance at the polls claim to represent the people? The SDP is run on the personal agenda of one man - do not be fooled![/quote]

    Hey man, "the spirit of democracy" is about peaceful and intelectual attacks to opposing schools of thought.
    After reading your post, I just have to say, SDP isn't doing anything wrong.
    Did they ever go around harming people, destroying lives, and making other people lives difficult?

    COME ON.
    You must be blind.

    What's the harm in introducing alternative ideas to inteligent folks like those in NUS????
    Even if it's one mans agenda, so what?
    I don't see the difference with the current situation.

    They are surely smart enough to make decisions for themselves about WHAT IS RIGHT anf WHAT IS WRONG.

    They wouldn't need people to tell them what to think.

    Every single day, the media here bombards you with things telling you what to think, how to act, and how to... whatever!!!

    We gotto grow man, seriously!!!
  • Paul - re: A Mobocrat in the Making
    [quote=NOT MY SDP]SDP is playing minds by painting a good picture of itself.

    Yes, a couple of students might stop by and take a picture with you, but do you know how many turned away in your face.

    Being charismatic is not enough. You can draw attention and be a mobocrat. That's dangerous. SDP, do not kill democracy.[/quote]

    What do you know about real democracy.
    Don't just say it.

    Prove it.
  • Tan Tai Wei
    'Curious',

    it has never been said on this website that no freedom at all is allowed by the government, only that many of its restrictions are unnecessary and unfair.

    So while it may be that the little freedom government does permit includes tolerating this website, the latter doesn't render pointless the various other concerns expressed here.

    And it has been those concerns the postings here are about, and not 'glorifying Chee'.
  • Paul - Adults-in-waiting
    [quote=Mike]
    But SDP choose to talk to kids instead..
    [/quote]

    Mike, from what you have written in the past, I can be sure that your low view of university students is also that of the PAP. Unlike you, the SDP has a high view of them and that is why their leaders take time to talk to these students at their level. They are adults-in-waiting, their ideas are worth listening to, and their minds are worth all the care and nurture we know how. Continue treating them as kids and you will end up with a country full of old kids and childish leaders. You do not want to see beyond the tip of your nose and I grant that that is your prerogative but don't ridicule the SDP for being far-sighted. It only confirms to many at this website what a bigot, fool, and ignoramus you are.

    Mike, you must recognise that there are many in Singapore who, like Dr. Chee, do not want to be hitmen or henchmen of the Godfather, LKY. His enforcers are odious, not worthy of what are professions of high calling in true first world countries. The SDP speaks for us, "the huddled masses yearning to breathe free."

    So, go and have a coffee and watch the indignity of the elderly scratching out a living. Some of them are the same age as the Godfather of Singapore and perhaps voted for the PAP in their younger days. Learn a lesson from them or you will end up like them if you ever manage to grow to their age.
  • Victor - SINGAPORE WASHING DIRTY LINEN PARTY
    Young minded students seem to pitty SDP, but they had forgotten that, what's being said was only one-sided story from SDP. Singaporean must not forget what PAP founding members had done in the building stage. NUS students must also not forget that the fact they able to study locally in NUS is heavily subsidized by the government. Of course, one could argue that government's money is peopls's money, but one MUST remeber you need people of High Intergrity, Honesty to run the governement, OR ELSE, at the end of the day, your Degree would be a Useless Toilet Paper.

    Had they asked what SDP had offered? Should PAP fails, who from SDP going to PM? Can we have CSJ be PM, CSC be Finance minister, Gandhi be Defence minister...?? I think the investors would have pack and go on the next flight.

    If SDP really represents Singaporean, the Polls results will have shown. At the end of the day, SINGAPOREAN BY & LARGE ARE NOT BLINDED.

    I really hope SDP would start thinking, caring for Singaporean. Get yourself legally voted in and represents the Poor, needy in Parliament. Be a Voice for these people, NEVER WORKS WITH FOREIGNERS TO SABO SINGAPOREAN. At the end of the day, should Singapore fails, the Poor, needy would suffer the most; Not Dr. Chee who is so well studied, Mr. Chia who is a lawyer...etc.
  • ntu student
    SDP, do whatever you can to make us students be more aware of our local politics.
    By the way, when is the next time you will pay a visit to ntu?
  • NUS Science faculty
    Dear Dr chee ,
    Thanks for your visit to NUS on recent days. We are flabbergasted by those very astonishing and disgusted political issue in our nation. As in a few exchange with DR chee , I become clearer on how PAP's intention in remodelling singapore to be world class country . It is more like mass producing humanoid to make resources for the government CPF system .By distorting the truth of liberal democracy constitional humans' right, the government are able exploiting the singaporeans from their ignorance and pocket all their hard earned money Paying minister million dollar salary already prove they are after our money rather than serving the nation and its people . We desprise them
  • Anonymous
    [quote]
    SDP should be distributing flyers to old folks home too...

    Old folks also have to vote in election..

    Who knows? they may vote the opposition

    But SDP choose to talk to kids instead..

    These students say they will support you but when they graduate later and have to vote...

    They will still vote the PAP because it's safer for them and peace of mind in their early working years..

    Which graduate wants to end up like CSJ?

    nothing better to do.. Too FRee with a lot of Freedom & doing nothing..

    So go and disturb NUS...
    [/quote]

    Hi Mike,

    you want SDP to distribute flyer at Geylang instead? You can help be the tourleader. We know lau tee ko like you always like to go there cheong.
  • dont be stupid - laughing stock
    Let me respond to Victor. Mine min brackets:

    NUS students must also not forget that the fact they able to study locally in NUS is heavily subsidized by the government. (I KNOW. I ALSO KNOW THAT STUDENTS IN ASEAN, LONDON, NEW YORK, SYDNEY, BEIJING, TAIPEI PAID VERY MUCH LESS THAN US IN THEIR GOOD U.)

    one MUST remeber you need people of High Intergrity, Honesty to run the governement, OR ELSE, at the end of the day, your Degree would be a Useless Toilet Paper. (YA. BUT WE SEND OUR STUDENTS TO STUDY IN LONDON, NEW YORK WHERE THEIR PM/PRESIDENT RECEIVE ONLY ABOUT 20% OF OUR PM'S PAY.)

    Had they asked what SDP had offered? (NO. BUT WE KNOW WHAT PAP COULD NOT OFFER.)

    Should PAP fails, who from SDP going to PM? Can we have CSJ be PM, CSC be Finance minister, Gandhi be Defence minister...?? I think the investors would have pack and go on the next flight. (U MUST BE LIVING IN A WELL. RAISE YOUR HEAD AND TAKE A LOOK AT OPPOSITION CONTROLLED STATES IN PENANG, SELANGOR, KELANTAN, PERAK AND KEDAH. FACTS SPEAK FOR ITSELF.)

    If SDP really represents Singaporean, the Polls results will have shown. At the end of the day, SINGAPOREAN BY & LARGE ARE NOT BLINDED. (THEN U SHOULD NOT WORRY...HAHA)

    I really hope SDP would start thinking, caring for Singaporean. Get yourself legally voted in and represents the Poor, needy in Parliament. (IF U THOUGHT THAT PAP IS SUCH GOOD GOVT, Y DO U NEED SDP TO DO THESE.)

    Be a Voice for these people, NEVER WORKS WITH FOREIGNERS TO SABO SINGAPOREAN. (WHY DON'T U STOP USING FOREIGN CARS, FOREIGN TV AND PRODUCTS.)

    At the end of the day, should Singapore fails, the Poor, needy would suffer the most; Not Dr. Chee who is so well studied, Mr. Chia who is a lawyer...etc. (HOW CAN SINGAPORE FAIL WHEN YOUR PAP IS SO GOOD??)
  • NOT MY SDP - re:
    Commenting using a "Faculty" and getting spelling mistakes.

    [quote=NUS Science faculty]Dear Dr chee ,
    Thanks for your visit to NUS on recent days. We are flabbergasted by those very astonishing and disgusted political issue in our nation. As in a few exchange with DR chee , I become clearer on how PAP's intention in remodelling singapore to be world class country . It is more like mass producing humanoid to make resources for the government CPF system .By distorting the truth of liberal democracy constitional humans' right, the government are able exploiting the singaporeans from their ignorance and pocket all their hard earned money Paying minister million dollar salary already prove they are after our money rather than serving the nation and its people . We desprise them[/quote]
  • Harry Chua
    Pardon, may I see the survey from this website.
  • Anonymous
    If you Turning to Mr Ng, and said "The students don't look like they want your protection." Why, I don't see his behind you while you're taking photo at the center. Are the photo take before the conversation?
  • silent - re: To first year engineering student
    [quote=Old Uncle's Friend]Good to see you are concerned about society. I hope you also asked - How would supporting the SDP help the old people in Singapore? So SDP told you a lot of shocking things about our political past? Did you also query Chee about how and why he ousted Chiam See Tong from the SDP, and how the SDP has since then performed miserably at the polls? Should Chee not have to take responsibility for this? Who deserves our respect more - Chiam who has been serving his ward all this time or Chee, who holds no job expect to create trouble?[/quote]

    Perhaps you would like to share that particular story and its significance/relevance to this particular issue with us?

    Otherwise it seems like a personal attack or smearing campaign, one that a particular republican presidential candidate might be proud to endorse.

    I am rather disappointed that I didn't get a chance to see the peeps from the SDP. Would it be perhaps possible to publicize it the next time you all pop by at NUS?
  • seaporter - We are really robots!
    The local graduates are really more and more becoming robots; much like iRobots which only acts on iNSTRUCT and iGuide, having lost the basic intelligence and common sense of what a world class uni is supposed to produce. The analytical and common sense is totally being eaten up by iExam and iGrade such that we are basically nerds that copy from the books and not applying what we learnt! What I thought is graduates are able to think well and think far, but usu we are caught up in the quest for good grades so as to land up with a good job offer from MNC or gov ministries so that they can be comfortable driving a brand-new cars, bo-chap about the lower income, clocking point, getting fat bonus, and back-stabbing others so as to bring down others and to elevate ourselves when assessment comes and when performance grading is around the corner. The worse are the PRs who often have the fear of job security and they have no choice but to bring down others. Working in this kind of back-stabbing environment is miserable for oneself. That's why many choose to migrate to other countries where people are more friendly and free to talk heart to heart. In Singapore, it's hard to talk heart to heart to people, esp when people are trying to quote your words. In a dogs and cats world, guess only dogs wins. If the local authority thinks that the graduates are in kindergarten, then they may be right in some sense as we are lacking the skill to compete with the Indians and the mainland Chinese who can do things at a lower cost, much better than an average graduates. If not why are jobs not filled by local graduates, but rather by foreign graduates or is there something WRONG with the local education that can't produce graduates that meet the market standards and demand.
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