Singapore Democrats

Congratulation! Having to know that more and more people are buying shows a good sign from Singapore residents. Happy to hear this.

jacys, Richard Kong and Victor should start reading too.

may i just add to your line:

"In spite of all the PAP hype about the soundness of its policies, Singapore is the first Asian country to go into a recession."

well, despite the pap's call that protests will only chase investors and tourist away and also cripple the economy. lo and behold, hk, korea, thailand (all "infamous" for holding protests), surprisingly didnt go into recession the way singapore has.

[quote=Victor]The way the CHEES led SDP are 100% sure leading to a dead and shameful ends.

SDP's style of politics under the CHEES has no place in Singapore, may be TAIWAN, USA... The way they propagade their democracy has no place in Singapore; however, pleases their foreign masters. Singaporean by and large, are not stupid.

Chia and some right thinking members who loves Singapore must do something right, sensible to kick the CHEES out, only then there is hope for SDP, just as he has cleverly booted Chiam out.

At the end of the day, its the naive members that stupidly buy the CHEES style suffers.[/quote]

Did I bark loudly enough ?

Hope I did a good job to earn myself a few more buckets of shit and urine from my elite masters. I AM A PIG !!

People who are against CSJ will never read it no matter what is said about the book, unless the ST reports about it. Whether the reports are or against it, either way it's gonna attract attention. Even if the whole population read it, there will hardly be any immediate reaction due to the nature of S'poreans.

[quote=jacys]Now besides TOC, nobody dares to give SDP a fair coverage, you guys still dare to behave like hooligans ?

Talk somemore and I will ask Andrew to stop giving SDP free publicity.[/quote]

I just approached Andrew to get him to stop giving SDP free publicity but I was so angry...

He shouted at me : "Who do you think you are ?? Get lost !!"

I guess I better look myself in the mirror first before making such bold assertion, above.

I am just a junior rank PIG, too eager to prove myself to my elite masters.

Better go back, eat more shit and drink more urine.

[quote=Richard Kong]Get real and do not any how twist and turn the charge and pointing fingers at others. Remember 3 fingers are always pointing back at you![/quote]

Did I "get real" enough to bark louder than idiot PIG "Victor" ?

Surely I deserve more shit and urine as rewards than "Victor", right ?

When my masters ask, tell them I did a better job than "Victor".

(Both of us are PIGs, fighting for promotions, while jacys is new comer.)

Whether people react or not is not an issue, but it will form questioning minds. Rome was not built in a day.

To the above impersonator: stop being so lame.

To the moderator: shouldn't everybody have an account and registered their names to prevent impersonation ?

To Chee: even if you pay me to read I also won't read ! your book is not even fit for me to wipe my ass.

By the way, stop plagiarizing the WP manifesto as whatever you have mentioned has been brough up by WP way back in 2006 !!

Yes, I encourage all those who read Chee's book to read the WP manifesto too to compare the differences between a man of substance, Mr Low Thia Kiang and an empty vassal, which for all the noise it makes, is still empty.

Haha...

[quote=ah beng]People who are against CSJ will never read it no matter what is said about the book, unless the ST reports about it. Whether the reports are or against it, either way it's gonna attract attention. Even if the whole population read it, there will hardly be any immediate reaction due to the nature of S'poreans.[/quote]

Have faith, ah beng. Truth always prevails.

Hey Jacys, why you come from WP to here and getting so worked up? Are you really concerned about what the real issues are or are you just interested in proving your point? It doesn't matter whether SDP or CSJ is saying something sensible. What matters is what is being said. If LKY would say a clever thing now, I would applaud him. The government is made up of people and I'm sure they have reflected on certain things they have done and came to the conclusion that it was not very tactful. But you know how people are; no one wants to lose face, especially chinese. Hey gahmen, why dun want to admit? I swear I won't Laugh.

[quote=jacys]Chee may spend the remaining of the trial showing off his debating skills in court, but the end result is still the same: he will be pronounced guilty, fined, of course he will wilfully refuse to do so and go to jail to become a hero.

Unfortunately, only the few SDP supporters here think so while 99.9999% of Singaporeans regard Chee as an idiot, period.[/quote]

I wrote that "the end result is still the same" because my masters told me that they already intended to "fix" CSJ.

There is not, and will never be, a fair trial for SDP.

All of us who wrote against SDP here are PIGs trying to get more rewards --- buckets of shit and urine --- during this bad time of recession.

Do bear with us.

Is jacy some pap mole been planted to create disruption?? sigh you should stop your nonsense.

Mr/Ms Worldclass,

You should have included Malaysia in your list of countries.. Despite losing half of the Peninsula to opposition, Malaysia did not go into a recession and not a single Malaysia in KL fall victim to the Mini Bond crisis.

Can SDP share with us the exact number of copies sold? What is the order size?

[quote=jacys]To the moderator: shouldn't everybody have an account and registered their names to prevent impersonation ?[/quote]

If the moderator did that, then people would not feel comfortable enough to post anonymously, like this reply :)

To jacys: Continue making a fool out of yourself and your party in public, please! :)

the deal with freedom of expression is that it also comes with the freedom of a certain degree of self destruction. in general, no one, let alone the garmen, shld interfere with someone to live a fuck free life or a life full of fucks.

i mean, seriously, do you give a fuck when you see someone smoke their lungs to cancer come? do you? if you walk into a clinic and saw this teenage girl pregnant and about to have an abortion, do you offer to kaypoh? do you?

people who tell the garmen to fuck off and mind their business is basically saying, leave us alone to live our lives, for better or for worse, so we can....develop our own internal guiding system. you see, if you want to be free, you must first be free to grow up. with your internal guiding system muted or lies dormant, the people will always be at the mercy of religious powers.

when you give your innate power away, everything becomes justifiable in a set of determined good by a group of clergy though the line between collective good of the people and their collective good is extremely and deceptively thin.

but hey, that's your call. don't think anything changed with all these legal wrangling.

Congraluations.SDP hot the nail when it identified the two issues.Money laundrying and useless migrants to temporary jack up the dynasty fake economic growth.As long as there is no democracy there will be no creativity like Swizaland and more uneducated migrants will come to provide the low end service industries like Geylang.Even in this dynastic policy there will be a saturation point for this island.

[quote=ah beng]People who are against CSJ will never read it no matter what is said about the book, unless the ST reports about it. Whether the reports are or against it, either way it's gonna attract attention. Even if the whole population read it, there will hardly be any immediate reaction due to the nature of S'poreans.[/quote]

Have you not heard of 'word of mouth'? That's what friends are for?

I have personally witnessed one of my collegues reading this book. Yes, this very book - A Nation Cheated. When I ask them, they said it was not theirs, but someone else.

My point is no matter what your views are, you would likely have friends/collegues who would read up on such materials and you would be inclined to borrow it.

Singaporeans are by large, open minded.

As long as your work is worth reading, advertising is not a problem.

are there any australian unis that have ordered the book

i think its time to make ppl start registering to post comments... because too many ppl are acting as someone else

Anonymous @7:21

I have to agree with your post regarding "freedom of expression is that it also comes with the freedom of a certain degree of self destruction" BUT only in a different perspective.

As of most viewed them on a different level; For majority sake.

The [b]FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION[/b] that Dr Chee has been highlighting [b]is[/b] indeed a general one and in fact, a major one. The one that can help us regain [b]OUR VOICE[/b], what we disapprove when it comes govt.'s unfair decisions. Regarding policies that are affecting our daily lives on CPF, housing, transportation, medical expenses etc. The freedom of expression here is for Singaporean to have a fair balance and check on the government.

Please read the bold letters combined.

Me going to start reading this book! Dun want to be cheated!

[quote=k z]i think its time to make ppl start registering to post comments... because too many ppl are acting as someone else[/quote]

Like, I speak for myself.

Why opposition from other opposition (jacys & friends) want to critisise other opposition for selling a book? Hey, it's good for the economy and besides, it keeps them shops competive. It is also earnings for the employees.No one ask you to buy if you dun like.

Hi

I've written a review of the book in my blog:

http://agentsarego.blogspot.com/2008/10/nation-cheated.html

[b][i]A Nation Cheated starts off with Part I - an account of how Lee Kuan Yew and the PAP had gotten into power, from his viewpoint.

It's probably biased - hell, who isn't? - but it casts doubt on the PAP's (probably biased, too) version of events.

Personally, I didn't really care much for this part. History is history. We can learn from it, or draw conclusions from it, but we can't change it anyway.

Part II addresses Singapore's labour and economic policies, looking at how they might have been successful in the short term, but we're finally seeing some of their shortcomings in the form of a widening income gap, a lack of entrepreunership and the poorly-hidden fact that many of the government's foreign investments have failed.

While Chee clearly outlines the problems, the possible solutions he offers aren't convincing, considering that he had managed to squeeze all of that into a mere 5.5 page-long chapter titled 'The alternative'.

"What can be done to improve Singapore?" is the question that he had answered in that chapter. However, what we really want to know is, "What are our opposition leaders going to do to improve Singapore?". The book, and possibly Chee's strategy, fails in this aspect.

==

A Nation Cheated ends off with a speech, and an appendix of questions and answers.

It's an informative read, provided you understand that books by political leaders - opposition or otherwise - are inherently biased.

A pity it doesn't tell us what they can do to improve Singapore.

Or for that matter, what I can do to build a democratic Singapore with Chee.[/i][/b]

THE ABOVE "Book Review : A Nation Cheated" WAS TAKEN DIRECTLY FROM "KC Lee'S BLOG PAGE. WORD FOR WORD.

Quickly, go and buy [b][i]A Nation Cheated[/i][/b] so that you are not cheated anymore.

[b]Actually CSJ gloats about this book here, a few times, is because he wants to advertise for this book.

He needs lots of money to pay lawsuits mah... He very frightened now, until trousers also drop.[/b]

If you don't want to see CSJ go to prison --- eat "[i]drugged[/i]" food ??? ---, then buy this book to help him financially loh.

If he eats "[i]drugged[/i]" food (???), I go eat PIG shit.

Tell you all so much you also don't understand. Go get a copy now.

our millionaire minister announced that singapore goes into recession.

"In spite of all the PAP hype about the soundness of its policies, Singapore is the first Asian country to go into a recession."

we are paying our elite ministers millions and billions of dollars to lead us into recession?

they are not doing their job. we should really review their salary.

[quote=Anonymous]we are paying our elite ministers millions and billions of dollars to lead us into recession?

they are not doing their job. we should really review their salary.[/quote]

How would you suggest we proceed with your idea ?

These factors are all examined in A Nation Cheated. The author warns that if Singapore's politico-economic problems are not addressed soon, Singaporeans will face an increasingly bleak future.


Huh??? But hasn't Singapore's future been BLEAK all along with a retarded, ignorant workforce of coolie geneology plus the infux of even more retarded and ill-informed 4th, 5th rated workers of even worse gene poo from EVERYWHERE?

No point in fighting over who's right or wrong. Just read the book and form your own opinion.

I urge all Singaporeans not to waste their time reading Chee's blatant plagiarism of the WP manifesto.

If you are keen to know more, just get a copy of the WP manifesto from our weekly Monday Open House from 7 to 9pm at the WP HQ at Syed Alwi road.

Unsure how much one costs but I'm the latest to be retrenched, am in HDB, SP Services, Tanjong Pagar Town Council arrears to the tune of thousands so I cannot fork out the money
- unless I shoplift at Kinokuniya; カネないもん　本買いたいけどな～　紀伊の国屋から万引いちゃうか。。。　-
to pay for what must be the read of one's lifetime.

So, maybe, maybe neh, Dr Chee cold serialize it on this website?

I promise to donate to your Cause whenever I can, okiez?

[b][quote]These factors are all examined in A Nation Cheated. The author warns that if Singapore's politico-economic problems are not addressed soon, Singaporeans will face an increasingly bleak future.[/quote][/b]

[color=red][b]How can they when they are frvolously travelling and taking such big fat salaries?????????? Any pay cuts?????[/b][/color]

I now found that there is a free market to sell these books and no more controlled by gahmen. Time to Owe$, Pay$ and follow JBJ example to fight the battle. I am no longer a fool myself for seeing the books selling so well but I have not read it yet. No money to buy.